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Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« on: December 01, 2015, 20:52:46 PM »
Thatcher 1982.

Cameron 2015.

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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2015, 07:38:49 AM »
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2015, 09:40:12 AM »
At least Cameron seems determined not to go off without backing for his plans, unlike Blair&Co.

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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2015, 12:51:48 PM »
Think it's a thing that those in power feel the need to do
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2015, 18:48:41 PM »
Thing is, it's not them that'll suffer. It's people going out for s drink, having a meal, going to a concert...

...Like Parisians were.

This is so wrong on so many levels.
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2015, 21:00:17 PM »
Commiserations to the poor bastards (Some English) who will die, soon.
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2015, 08:29:05 AM »
  I find all this really disturbing.  Didn't it seem to you that there were a lot of MPs who really, really wanted to bomb Syria? And we all know that it causes more problems than it solves.  Add to that the current mess over there, with dozens of different factions shooting at one another, most of them as bad as IS, plus the major military powers chucking ordnance about, and I think this is a really bad idea.  No one suggested bombing Northern Ireland in the 70s and 80s, did they?
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2015, 09:00:47 AM »
i had a 7 year old here in tears last night.
he's very bright, and he understands that it is a bad thing. I had to turn the news off (not that it is good to watch these days anyway)
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2015, 09:18:02 AM »
Historically, Syria has always been somewhat warlike. We've played right into the hands, of some of the worst elements, now. As Corbyn said, we should be trying to stop their funding and their suppliers,

Unfortunately, I believe a lot of their weapons came from here...
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2015, 09:26:19 AM »
Seems Germany's likely to join in, now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35002733

WW3 anyone?
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2015, 09:30:15 AM »
Seems Germany's likely to join in, now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35002733

WW3 anyone?

   I fear it might be the start of it.  Playing right into IS's  hands.
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2015, 09:32:54 AM »
Seems we're both one of Scameron's "Terrorist sympathisers", then.

Depressing.
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2015, 09:40:08 AM »
  It just seems to me that there's an awful lot going on over there.  What can we, with our tiny, cut-down air force, and limited (by the Tories) military capability, contribute, other than to get ourselves enmeshed in a whole pile of trouble.  You can't bomb an ideology away.  That comes through time, education, and improving people's lot in life.  I really found myself admiring Corbyn, although I dislike a lot of his ideas, and couldn't vote for him on the nuclear deterrent issue alone.
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2015, 09:45:37 AM »
I'm curious as to how we're gonna pay for it. I guess Osborne'll cut the NHS, reduce benefits for the disabled and all that stuff, even more.

I've always felt that wars should be done as they were, way back. Those who started the war went up front, fighting with the troops. I can just imagine Scameron and Mr. Bean in fatigues...

I thought Corbyn did well, during the debate, myself.

Maybe nuking Syria would be a good ideaTM, after all.
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Re: Our party's floundering! Let's start a war!
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2015, 09:51:09 AM »
I'm curious as to how we're gonna pay for it. I guess Osborne'll cut the NHS, reduce benefits for the disabled and all that stuff, even more.

   At least the Tories will be able to flick cigar ash on the homeless, and tell them that they're doing their bit for the war effort.

I thought Corbyn did well, during the debate, myself.

   Unlike Benn.  His 'barnstorming' speech, seemed little more than a bid for the leadership.  His father wouldn't have been pleased with him, that's for sure.
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