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Started by Tâf, January 27, 2016, 17:55:23 PM

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K@

Having met and nattered with the guy, I really like him. I happen to agree with him, on Trident. How is it a deterrent, when everyone knows we'll never use it? Why spend all that dosh and use all those resources, for something we'll never use?

His views on pacifism have been selectively misrepresented. His views are like mine. Try everything, first. Only when all else has failed should we resort to armed conflict. That crap on Bombing Syria... OK, we've bombed them. What affect has it had? A good one?

His main problem is the media. They're constantly twisting what he says and we all know why.

As I said, I've met him and talked with him.

He'll get my vote. No question.

An honest party leader? Whatever next?

Personally (I may be naive), what I look for, above all else, with anybody, is honesty. Even if I don't agree with them, I'd prefer them to be honest.
The trouble with cats is that they've got no tact. - P. G. Wodehouse

Ian

Quote from: K@ on February 19, 2016, 12:01:36 PM
Personally (I may be naive), what I look for, above all else, with anybody, is honesty. Even if I don't agree with them, I'd prefer them to be honest.

   Good luck with that.

   What surprises me is the vitriol he's received from his own party and party supporters.  The man is a socialist, leading a socialist party.  What's wrong with them?
HPBG!

Tâf

Final figures have arrived from Virginmedia, I'll drop them off at the DWP and Council later today. No getting through about my RAF pension though. The DWP bloke called at teatime yesterday to say he didn't get through either. He also said they have rejected my Home Office pension paperwork too, as there are no payment dates or amounts....

Tâf

Quote from: Ian on February 19, 2016, 12:08:03 PM
Quote from: K@ on February 19, 2016, 12:01:36 PM
Personally (I may be naive), what I look for, above all else, with anybody, is honesty. Even if I don't agree with them, I'd prefer them to be honest.

   Good luck with that.

   What surprises me is the vitriol he's received from his own party and party supporters.  The man is a socialist, leading a socialist party.  What's wrong with them?

He's a champagne socialist leading a party that USED to be socialist.

K@

Good luck, Taf!

Quote from: Ian on February 19, 2016, 12:08:03 PMWhat's wrong with them?

They want power, for the sake of having power. They're mostly Blairite Tory-Lites.
The trouble with cats is that they've got no tact. - P. G. Wodehouse

K@

I've done some research...

The Tories have... doubled the national debt to over £1.5 trillion
increased the NHS deficit to £2 billion
ensured the richest 1% own as much as the 55% poorest
increased house prices and rents for landlords' benefit
subsidised rich landowners with £3.5 billion every year
enabled nursing and other private agencies to make a fortune
cancelled the bank levy
cut corporation tax cut to 45%
condoned tax evasion by multinational corporations
tolerated tax havens
encouraged the lobbying industry
sold arms to nations which violate human rights
increased VAT
abolished protection for workers from accidents
neglected house building as well as flood defences with the loss of homes and businesses
failed to support the steel industry
left 18 million people without adequate housing
5.5 million people earning less than they need
2.5 million children living in damp properties
1.5 million children with insufficient food
1.85 million people unemployed (3/4 million young people 16-24)
1.7 million OAPs living below the breadline
12 million people so poor they have no social life
abolished students' grants and trebled their fees
cut social services for old and infirm people
increased the cost of nursery places by 33% per cent
reduced the number of child care and Sure Start centres
cancelled legal aid
deceived the public about tax credit cuts
alienated Moslems
deprived workers of their rights
forced doctors and nurses to go on strike
been two-faced about reducing pollution
failed to condemn the Saudi government for unjust executions
wasted money on prestige projects like Trident and bombing Syria
reduced allowances to opposition parties
virtually silenced the House of Lords
provoked a UN investigation into disabled people's suicide

Nazis.
The trouble with cats is that they've got no tact. - P. G. Wodehouse

K@

Seems the biggest Tory butchers want out. That's me voting to stay in, then. :)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-vote-leave-michael-gove-iain-dunacn-smith-chris-grayling-john-whittingdale-theresa-a6886181.html

Osborne's been quiet, coz he's in rehab, again, apparently.
The trouble with cats is that they've got no tact. - P. G. Wodehouse

Lisa

ids wants out coz the european court of human rights wants him.
stay in, if only to see him swing (not that he will)
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Tâf

The UN wants him and the rest too....

K@

The trouble with cats is that they've got no tact. - P. G. Wodehouse

K@

The trouble with cats is that they've got no tact. - P. G. Wodehouse

Tâf

Quote from: K@ on February 22, 2016, 17:42:56 PM
If any more proof is needed, about them being Nazis...

https://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com

Quotehe's possibly talking a load of old shite

K@

That thinktank's site says it all, though.
The trouble with cats is that they've got no tact. - P. G. Wodehouse

Ian

  With regards to Europe, I'm undecided.  So, I thought I'd look at the quality of men that wanted out.  I saw IDS, and thought, 'Sod it, I want to stay in'.
HPBG!

Mike

But look who wants us to stay in, Blair and Milliband